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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/2/2018 9:45 AM

a lot

That's fine too.

I just cant passively force while im doing something

9:46 AM

I always lose my focus on imagining her with me

9:46 AM

So i focus on wonderlands and active forcing

Do it in a way you enjoy it

I just imagine Cia sitting on the table

9:48 AM

might even arrange things to make room

9:48 AM

harder to forget that way

Setting up some kind of reminder might be beneficial for passive forcing

Of course, that's why it's recommended so often.

yeah, I had a reference pic of her originally as my lock screen

Can someone explain forcing to me?

9:53 AM

basically, it's doing things with your tulpa

^

talking and other interactions

Or thinking about them

9:54 AM

Mostly interaction though

Also she always sends me waves of emotions when i enter the wonderland

9:55 AM

@Deleted User it depends on how much free time you have

I have alot of free time

So try active forcing

9:56 AM

You just meditate, create an imaginary world and walk in it with your tulpa

9:56 AM

Well, not just walk, also speak with her, play with her and interact with her

Imo, it's not just about free time. Force in a way you enjoy it. Not everyone likes wonderland :p

Wonderland's hard to elaborate on tbh.

I was about to ask about that

9:57 AM

For some people it feels better to just focus on tulpa than imagining entire world

Granted, I have realized now the difference between visualizing your tulpa and imagining something -- and I haven't exactly mastered visualization enough to visualize my wonderland

same here

To me, my wonderland would simply be my imagination, and I know Celeste doesn't wait there, she's always present and I just have to acknowledge here. So like most things here, interpretation of wonderland is subjective -- so you don't have to worry about the concrete definition of it.

like I know where everything is and the general idea of what's in it

10:00 AM

just not in detail because it's straining

I think active forcing needs neither wonderland nor "imagining" in the real world. Once they're vocal, have a good chat. That seems more effective to me than any visual or other sensory interaction.

10:32 AM

Okay, so question. Do you guys ever have your tulpa address you with their own name? Because sometimes when Cee initiates a conversation, they'll go, "Cee?" or "Hey, Cee?" Then they'll realise they've made a mistake. It annoys them. Or sometimes, while switched, the same thing will happen. I'm thinking it's just the brain's habit because it's something I, the main fronter, do so often. Not sure though. What do you all think?

not here, although that might be because I've only really talked to Cia for like three days

Oh, new tulpa?

First one

Hasn't happened yet, but I have spoken the second she speaks. She says my name as I say hers, we get confused, I feel as if we switched, and then I shrug it off.

Nice. Hi Cia and welcome to life!

she says Thanks

Yeah, I think it's common, especially for less experienced systems, to get blurry when having good chats.

Cia doesn't really speak unless I'm on discord or if I specifically think about her

10:40 AM

she has yet to say something independently without prompt

No worry. Give it time.

10:41 AM

So why did you decide to create a tulpa?

appeal of companionship and a second opinion on things

10:42 AM

also curiosity.

Likewise

4:24 PM

Mostly curiosity

This is not common for tulpas, and they generally don't need to be tought manners

10:03 PM

You should try talking with her and asking her to be less rude and aggressive

Just talk to her and ask her what's wrong, or try clearing your head of intrusive thoughts

I've had some experience with this. Give your tupper love and try to work things out

10:24 PM

feel free to dm me if you'd like

10:27 PM

ah, yeah, remember they are folk and have needs/desires as well

personality forcing is overrated. But seriously, just treat her like a person. And listening to her is absolutely important. It's understandable why that would make someone upset, right?

It's not overrated. It's essentially like teaching a toddler what's right and wrong in a way. It's a period where you influence them to be a better person, as long as you don't hover over them and depict every little part of their personality. Put in a fewpositive/neutral traits, such as being honest and brash. It can possibly open up new perspectives for you.

Thisnis so weird to be doing

12:06 AM

Like, what the hell am I doing

What is odd about it?

Just... everything?

12:08 AM

The whole goal is fucking strange and sureal

Welcome to the other side

It's really odd, but after a while it becomes normal. Cherish these moments of mystery and discovery.

Right now it's all a mystery

12:17 AM

I have no feedback, and thats the thing that drives me up the wall

no feedback? (edited)

From them? The tulupa?

It takes time

12:35 AM

And just stubborness lol

aye. Natter away at them every time you think about it

Weirdly i dont have that much to natter about

Natter about not having anything to natter about

@Deleted User Holy shit that's a really cool art icle

1:26 AM

article, even

I found that article very interesting, but am confused about one of its most important parts:

1:34 AM

"If you make another category adjacent to that self and call it “my tulpa,” but don’t put anything into that category, it’s going to just sit there and not do anything. You have to be willing to break open your sense of self and sense of being and share it across the new categories if you want them to do something."

1:35 AM

What exactly does that mean? What does this look like in forcing? What does not doing this look like?

Man with a hammer looking for nails here, but it may be talking a bit about the idea that the host needs to be "reduced" in scope and looked at more as a personality itself in order to have more success with tulpamancy.

that was spoken really well.. from the perspective of a tulpamancer

2:11 AM

it definitely makes sense but not to a beginner

2:11 AM

@ the art icle quote

What would an example of "sharing your sense of self across new categories" look like, though?

3:13 AM

Because the core of creating a tulpa is directing attention/talking at something you label as "not me", and I don't see where what the article said comes into that

word

3:13 AM

I imagine there is a higher purpose to the words somewhere, but a lot of times people say things more because it sounds good and to inspire a certain mindset than to actually communicate a meaning

3:18 AM

Looking at the article, the idea of a category is that we categorize physical objects even though they don't necessarily exist as an object. Or that the categories we use are always flawed. I don't know how a sense might be "shared" between those categories, but it's more than likely that the article is saying that however you define "yourself" is similarly flawed and you could spread that definition into other areas?

3:22 AM

I honestly don't know

Thanks for the article, it was very instructive

4:03 AM

on many points

I understood most of what the article was trying to say

1:28 PM

You can ask me questions if you want

I think I've made some progress

5:48 PM

Let's call it the "ping pong" technique. I say black, the tulpa says white, and so on

5:48 PM

After we repeated this for a few minutes I asked her to keep going on her own

5:48 PM

And I think it worked

5:49 PM

I could hear "black-white-black-white" in my mind without making an effort (edited)

Cool

Spike the ball and say another color.